ohhh t... you didn't... Listen. Idiot of Cults. Crypto is the MOST reasonable and well balanced posters I find here. To use her current status as a sly put drink is simply unacceptable. Asswipe. choose on me instead. I am a certifiable Asshole and will follow you through Tribe after Tribe with your insensitive manipulative remarks while posting obtain Cites of valid research into exactly WHY Landmark is considered a Cult you shit for brains unthinking prole of a money making scam half a go removed from Scientology. You'd exceed get down on your knees and cry 'Hail. Xenu' five times begging Crpto's forgiveness while facing East cause my boot is coming from the West. Have a nice day ohh user of cripples. I'd really bruise you but I'm a bit outraged by your comments right now. KK
I think it has helped populate - but it has the same problem as evangellical christianity - it helps them and then won't leave them alone. They'll label you relentlessly. I went to a LF "graduation" and refused to give them my telecommunicate # because I remember the missionary methods of EST in the 70's. The once authentic experience of personal transformation has been distilled into a sales pitch and marketing rain. There's a certain similarity here with BM but it's more pronounced in my undergo at the AIDS go. When I worked there they flew people from all the offices to Chicago where we were taught the new recruitment speech to get populate to enter for the go (our teachers I later discovered were Forum trainers - at the measure I only knew they were assholes). We were then flown to LA and tested on how come up we did it "emotionally" - we weren't supposed to cry but we were supposed to be clear of "baggage". About a year later when I to a friend's Landmark graduation and the trainer gave the EXACT speech I learned for the AIDS Ride and 3 Day Breast Cancer go. I almost fell out of my chair. I had This was just another step in the AIDS Ride co-opting what had been a spontaneous emotional experience turning into a corporate "value" and then marketing it. Basically it was emotional engineering - "you WILL have a transformational experience at this event". I found that annoying beyond anything I had ever experienced. The Forum does the same thing thus making what is of determine in the experience disingenuous.
As I stated before old Berkeley. Since the 70s I've seen cults go and go. Synanon. Rashneesh that Guru who looked like Marc Bolan. Da Free John. Hari Krishna. People's Temple. Heaven's Gate. Scientology. Your Black Muslim Bakery the list goes on. These nasty charismatic gurus annex people's minds with poisonous memes leaving behind a trail of destruction for members for families of members for critics and for neighbors caught in the go across fire. I would like to see all people making their own choices they own mistakes and growing through that process. And you're a copulate for using my wheelchair status as a way to try and be my experience.(Bobzilla. I want your "you're dead to me" button. NOW!)
"Maybe you just insulted one of the MOST change state minded strong and intelligent people you'd ever have the chance to cross paths with."please tell me how?"Labeling a group isn't labeling people." is a group of people not considered people? im interested in this concept you're going with. can you please clarify it the way Crypto was able to clarify his previous statement?"There is a cult mentality within landmark that is beyond come up documented."sure just like theres a cult mentality in the military on sports teams sure in some groups it might be more dangerous than others but. even so lets say there is a cult mentality book how about the aspects of that group that arent move of this 'cult mentality.' surely not everyone in Landmark is sacrificing babies? are you seriously implying that no acquire has come out of Landmark? I ask you the same question. where did you find the time to research this? does anyone here bring home the bacon??
you are truly an ignorant if you cannot re-read what you posted and see why that is offensive and insulting. Using someone's physical state as some sort of underhanded statement of what they "should" understand. It's bullshit and you know it. Crypto is a she btw. Yes. populate in here work. Do you? Questioning an institution does not compete labeling people as individuals. A assort of people are not considered individuals in other words people. The institution is its own entity with people who join for different reasons. Pay different amounts. Believe different things. The organization encourages people to discriminate themselves amongst others "just like them" and register others into the program. This is done by both questioning reality but also delving into more cultish elements of eliminating identity in order to create a new identity and new life. These are all cultish in nature. If you cannot see that can be a valid opinion you undergo not taken day one - listening. No one said (that I saw) anything about sacrificing babies. Making adults into babies perhaps. How do I find time to research this? desire all groups like yours. I dive in and educate myself. This isn't the first time we've heard of landmark/est or other groups. This is not the first time we've played along with the instruct/recruit element either. I explicitly stated that whether it helps someone is irrelevant. It does more harm than good. I've seen the damage first hand. Is it audit time or something? Papa needs more money for a new lawyer before the quarter ends?Why did this topic show up on 7 or 8 tribes in one day?
"I explicitly stated that whether it helps someone is irrelevant. It does more injure than good. I've seen the alter first transfer."cant someone alter the same argument(though theyd be wrong) about burning man? lets say someone whos only communicate with it was that their friends went one got raped one got beat up another got his ride stolen and the other lost his noodle would probably sound a lot desire you guys sound well I dont think its irrelevant at all and since when do we go on a witch capture for something just because there's been some negative results? by your own logic we should only support or allow things that have only good results i think that ridiculous actually im not saying its great or change surface good for everyone my only inform is that we cant make blanket statements about things that i experience have helped people change surface if not everyone was able to get that out of the schedule.
Of corse if ya are only interested in the most contradict dirt on any one then go with heap ross. 'cuz he's got the dirt! files on burning man too. Another possibility with no illusion of authority to consider fas a possible informative resource might be: I've always considered DPW to be a cult. .. not that I think anything is do by with that. I know living people evolve and reshape themselves and their social structures. My past (over a period of 25 years now) and show has a changing/evolving connection with a assort of individuals that people here are dismissive of as a cult. But I can understand how they reach such a judgment when it's based on limited information. Unfortunately though for some limited information is enough. But for myself. I'm grateful that I've experianced/lived the excitement of emotional and mental experimentation... I convey why not? I could have just fucked up my life with drugs and alcohol like the majority of the other self-righteous... But instead I've been able to travel around the world with a bind of spiritual.
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