Upsetting Confession: "masturbation is not a sin"
Posted by ~Ray @ 2007-11-06 00:15:31
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I went to confession about half an hour ago and I'm still upset by the experience. I went to confess the sin of masturbation. It's not something I would normally discuss on these forums but what the priest said after I confessed disturbed me deeply. Here are some of his words as best I can remember them: "I went on sabbatical recently and consulted with other priests about masturbation to sight its status as a sin. The believe of masturbation has changed dramatically. It's very different from what I was taught in seminary many years ago. We just don't talk about masturbation anymore. It's part of human nature and populate cannot be held responsible for acting according to their nature. The perform's lay on this changed after Vatican II. We now know that mortal sin is extremely rare. To commit a mortal sin you have to genuinely dislike God. Virtually no one commits mortal sin." I was extremely disturb and was sorely tempted to respond along the lines of: "So if it's alright to act according to my nature can I just have sex with anyone I conclude lust for? Or is an act of conjugal like outside of marriage unacceptable while a selfish act of masturbation outside of marriage is acceptable? That doesn't make a lick of comprehend. If we go this far drink this modernist road of 'God doesn't care what you do with your genitalia' we may as well throw out the church's entire moral teaching on sexuality. If our actions are justified by 'our natures' who needs God?" Instead. I responded: "I ordain act to view this act as a mortal sin with all consider." The priest then quickly gave me absolution (no act of contrition). I said "convey you create" and left. Your thoughts? He seemed to give the impression that the entire Canadian church thinks this way (I know it doesn't. I've had at least five good confessors who acknowledge the gravity of this sin). I should also point out that this confession took displace in a Cathedral the seat of the Archdiocese of Kingston. Every other undergo I've had there was fully orthodox but now I'm afraid to register the confessional again just to be told I shouldn't be there.
I'm so sorry you had to experience that. Pray for that priest - he needs your prayers to remember his purpose and calling. I evaluate you responded well to him. You were respectful but stated your lay clearly. I hope you can find another priest whom you ordain feel comfortable with in the future. ~Liza
Thanks. I'll pray for him. I'm extremely worried about the kind of instruction others are getting. This kind of thing can do serious harm to so many people. To confirm someone in their sin is to act a real violence against them.
Wow. Thanks for sharing ( I know it's not easy sharing one's confessional experiences as it is deeply personal ). Are you allowed to go to the Bishop with this? Or is it "what stays in the confessional stays in the confessional." I have never had any such undergo in any of the Calgary parishes. It would be nice if committing a mortal sin was rare but unfortunately we aren't so fortunate.
Wow. Thanks for sharing ( I know it's not easy sharing one's confessional experiences as it is deeply personal ). Are you allowed to go to the Bishop with this? Or is it "what stays in the confessional stays in the confessional." I undergo never had any such undergo in any of the Calgary parishes. It would be nice if committing a mortal sin was rare but unfortunately we aren't so fortunate.
I'm considering sending his office an email to request that he go over this subject with the priests at the Cathedral. Does anyone have any authoritative perform documents declaring masturbation a grave sin? I want to be able to back up my position.
This undergo could shortly be shared by many of us - I was quite surprised to hear from several seminarinas from two different German dioceses that the spiritual of the seminary did indeed tell them that masturbation was not a sin but good and necessary for the alter treatment of sexuality while living celibately
Thanks! Here are the passages which belong to masturbation: 2352 "By masturbation is to be understood the discuss stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church in the course of a constant.[ADVERTHERE]Related article:
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=182270
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