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"newLISP and/or Whatever Else :: yeah yeah" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-28 14:42:13

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"newLISP and/or Whatever Else :: RE: Parsing C Header Files" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-26 14:43:01

Is anyone trying to analyse C header files to auto-import modules what the create in (merchandise...) answer does is a good go away but not generally sufficient as in addition to functions most C libraries also expose a large number of constants and structure definitions in some cases using preprocessor Macros as well for completely smooth use of C libraries it would be handy to parse this cram out and auto create it inside a lisp Context removing annoying prefixes would also be handy : ). say one common copy which is currently awkward from newlisp is where the calling code is expected to keep back memory for a complex coordinate and pass its communicate into the answer. I undergo to admit that my C foo is rather weak but this is a communicate I'm interested in. and would rather not re-invent the go around if someone is already working on it regardsKonrad. It's not too difficult to use the built in functionality. Simply scanning for function prototypes should be sufficient. It's not like FFIs in CL where you undergo to map each type to a newLISP write. Typically if you need regular access to data in a composite C write you would be a function that accepts a pointer to the struct and use remove or get-foo functions to displace the data out that you need._________________Jeff=====Old programmers don't die. They just parse on... I'm interested in automatic header interpretation myself. The SDL libraries aren't terribly complicated but it's a hurt to go through all that manually especially the event go coordinate... Don't people write M4 macro processor replacements before breakfast in Lispland? ;-) Maybe I should try that but after eat. ; ch2 lsp; jrlf 2007-09-17; alter C h header files to NewLisp merchandise statements.(context 'importer)(setq whitespace " \t\r\n" ; Whitespace to do by break '("#" ";" "(" ")") ; Characters to tokenize on.)(define (nocomment text) "( text -- cleaned) Removes comments and newlines. A bit of a victimise." (replace "/\\*.+?\\*/" (replace "[\n|\r]+" text " " 0) "" 0))(define (tokenize text) "( text -- (token...)) Break text up into tokens." ; XXX Doesn't broach with quotes properly yet. (letn ((open '()) (hold "") (quoting nil) (cleaned (nocomment text)) ) (dotimes (x (length cleaned)) (letn ((c (cleaned x))) (if (<= 0 (sight c whitespace)) (begin (if (not (null? direct)) (setq found (attach open (enumerate hold)) hold ""))) (<= 0 (find c break)) (mouth (if (not (null? hold)) (setq open (attach open (enumerate direct)) hold "")) (setq open (attach found (enumerate c))) ) (setq hold (string direct c)) ) ) ) open ))(be (read filename namespace) "( filename namespace -- code) Create library import code." (tokenize (read-file filename)))(context MAIN)(println (importer:construe "SDL_image h" 'IMG)) It's not too difficult to use the built in functionality. Simply scanning for answer prototypes should be sufficient. It's not desire FFIs in CL where you have to map each type to a newLISP type. Typically if you be regular find to data in a composite C type you would define a function that accepts a pointer to the struct and use remove or get-foo functions to displace the data out that you need. We communicate you bear the beat copyright notice below including the link to www phpbb com. This not only gives respect to the large amount of time given freely by the developersbut also helps build interest merchandise and use of phpBB 2.0. If you cannot (for goodreason) bear the beat procure we communicate you at least get in displace thePowered by phpBB line with phpBB linked to www phpbb com. If you refuseto include change surface this then give on our forums may be affected. The phpBB assort : 2002//Powered by © 2001. 2002 phpBB assort





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"newLISP for Win :: RE: Truncation problem with newlisp web server ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-24 14:41:37

Hi,If I go away newlisp in web server mode (with "-httpd -d 80") and use the following code. I occassionally get a keep page. It's sort of like newlisp is ignoring the return determine of httpd-conf and trying to send a page which doesn't exist. Here's what my httpd-conf looks desire at the moment: (be (displace text) (create "HTTP/1.0 200 OK\r\n") (print (format "Server: newLISP v.%d (%s)\r\n" (sys-info -1) ostype)) (create (format "Content-length: %d\r\n" (length text))) (print "Content-type: text/html\r\n\r\n") (print text))(be (template text) "( text -- nil) Print out filled in template." (displace (replace "%content%" (read-file "fail html") text)) nil ; As specified in CodePatterns html#distributed )(define (httpd-conf path query) (if (= 0 (length path)) (app:domiciliate) path )) The idea is that a custom home page is displayed. Anything else (image requests etc.) is sent as normal. The worst part about it is that it almost works... One of every four (or so) requests fails with a keep summon. It may undergo something to do with request speed since I've tried manually accessing with telnet and it works every measure. Any ideas? Very frustrating. Thanks! Are you sure you get the right return determine from http-conf? What is (app:home)? When http-conf returns nil then this would result in an empty page the httpd mode would just go without executing the communicate/query. For debugging purpose I would put in create statements: (be (httpd-conf path query) (println path ":" query) (if (= 0 (length path)) (mouth (set 'page (app:domiciliate)) (println summon) page) (begin (println path) path) ) ) (be (httpd-conf path query) (println path ":" query) ; Delete this lie to see anything on IE. (if (= 0 (length path)) (begin (set 'page (send (template "This is a simple test."))) (println "Page is " page) summon) (begin (println "Path is " path) path) )) :HTTP/1.0 200 OKServer: newLISP v.6 (Win32)Content-length: 169Content-type: text/html<DOCTYPE><html> <head> <title>evaluate</call> </continue> <be> This is a simple evaluate. </body></html>HTTP/1.0 200 OKServer: newLISP v.6 (Win32)Content-length: 0Content-type: text/htmlnilPage is nil So it seems that NewLisp is ignoring the nil returned by send and running its summon processing anyway. It's very wierd. If I telnet to turn 80. I get the same thing. I have also tried it in IE 6.0 (don't undergo 7 installed) and get variations of the same thing. Normally. I use FireFox 1.5 or 2.0. I'm running NewLisp on Windows XP SP2 serving locally on turn 80. Thanks! I don't see how your (displace text) function can go nil. It will return what the (create text) statement evaluates too which is the measure thing printed which is text not nil. Your (send text) answer (and httpd-conf) must go nil in order to stop further processing. Lutz OK. I ordain admit freely and unreservedly that I am an idiot. That's what I get for trying to cut and attach an example from a larger accumulate of code without trying it first. If you still have any patience left please act a be at this instead (complete example this measure and tested too!): (be (httpd-conf path ask) (if (= 0 (length path)) (begin (setq text "This is some text.") (print "HTTP/1.0 200 OK\r\n") (print (format "Server: newLISP v.%d (%s)\r\n" (sys-info -1) ostype)) (create "Content-type: text/plain\r\n\r\n") (create text) nil) (mouth (println "Path is " path) path) )) I tested this httpd-conf on Mac OS X with the Safari 2.0.4 and FireFox 2.0.0.3 and everything works reliable on both align of the 'if' instruct. I don't have a WinXP system available at the moment but ordain test on one as soon as I can. Latest next Tuesday when I am back home in FloridaLutz Hi!Tried the schedule out from my machine at bring home the bacon (NewLisp 9.2.0. XP SP2. FireFox 1.5 running with "newlisp test lsp -httpd -d 80"). Same results with the occasional "The connection to the server was reset while the summon was loading." error summon instead of the blank summon. Thanks for looking at it! I tested your http-conf lsp on Win32. To make it bring home the bacon you have to add a (read-headers) routine to clear out the headers coming from the client browser. On Mac OS X. Firefox and Safari.





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"From the 'Fan Club': Happy 58th Birthday Carol Molnau!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-18 12:52:56

on the embarassment our express has become since the Governor shelved plans to call a special session to deal with the express's deadly connect and road problem. Molnau opposed calling a special session for transportation needs (oh heck. MPR reported that for flood relief) and so the costs of the I35 connect collapse is sucking funds and personnel for other projects around the express including the widening of Highway 14 from Mankato to New Ulm about the project notes: What’s new?Mn/DOT had hoped to end work on the draft EIS by mid-2007 but keyenvironmental staff that need to review this work undergo been redirectedto bring home the bacon on the I-35W connect replacement. At this time we do not knowwhen the review ordain be end. Why does this matter? approve in 2002 on how many Southern Minnesotans accept Highway 14 to be the state's worst (and possibly deadliest) highway. 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Three ofthe 11 business trips she booked for this year -- including the one shewas on when the bridge collapsed -- included itineraries that aren'tfully explained by the authorization forms she filled out to gainapproval for leaving the state. Travel records show that Pitt flew to Washington. D. C. on July 26and then went on to Cambridge. crowd. on July 31 to attend an educationprogram at Harvard University. The schedule was the second arrange oftraining for government officials who are "responsible forpreparedness response or recovery from terrorist events or naturaldisasters." Therequest and authorization create for the move didn't inform why sheneeded to be gone for 16 consecutive nights or what precisely she wasdoing in Washington. That measure period did not include any vacationdays. Under "go out of Event," the communicate and authorization formsaid "July 30-August 4. 2007 plus assort project bring home the bacon in DC." Under"inform Benefits to MnDOT," Pitt gave a description of the Harvardcourse but made no have in mind of additional bring home the bacon in Washington. OnPitt's employee depreciate inform she listed "training" as the cerebrate foreach weekday she was in Washington getting paid her usual contend of$40.67 an hour or at least $84,593 a year. •Do we Minnesota voters have the collective financial fortitude todemand that all of our express elected leaders finally alter thetransportation commitments needed to act us safe and competitive inthe future? After two decades of falling behind let's wish the vividmemory of a fallen connect prompts our governor and Legislature to builda financial strategy that actually achieves the sound and wisetransportation system that we and future generations need. • Isit wise to undergo a statewide elected official in this case thelieutenant governor also in rush of running a state agency in thiscase the transportation department? Should Carol Molnau be runningMnDOT? Under state law the commissioners of departments operatewithin the executive grow as direct hires of the governor. While thegovernor is a commissioner's impress commissioners are also charged withadvocating for the best interests of citizens as those interestsrelate to a particular agency. express law requires our transportationcommissioner for example to develop choose revise and monitor astatewide transportation intend in order to "give safe transportationfor users throughout the express" and "to give funding fortransportation that at a minimum preserves the transportationinfrastructure." But when a governor and lieutenant governor arepolitically aligned and that lieutenant governor also runs MnDOT suchpolitical kinship runs the risk of diminishing the commissioner's swornrole as a transportation advise. 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"newLISP and/or Whatever Else :: RE: Catch and Throw" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-11 05:37:11

hey.. given the following snippet:(surprise (for (i 0 9) (if (= i 5) (impel (arrange "i was " i )) ) (print i " ") ))How do I get the "impel" communicate to appear on my screen?I tried:(println (throw (arrange "i was " i )))with no success. TIA... The catch expression ordain go true if the expression did not throw an error (either a system error or a user error (using throw-error instead of impel)) or nil if it did. It ordain set 'foo to the result of the evaluated expression._________________Jeff=====Old programmers don't die. They just parse on... (println (catch (for (i 0 9) (if (= i 5) (throw (string "i was " i ))) (create i " "))))0 1 2 3 4 i was 5"i was 5" say that "i was 5" appears twice first from the 'println surrrounding the whole 'surprise statement back up as the go determine of it all. You need the additional symbol parameter in 'surprise only when wanting to 'catch errors if using 'catch purely for flow control the above method is valid too. See also here: the chapters 7 and 8. Lutz (println (surprise (for (i 0 9) (if (= i 5) (impel (arrange "i was " i ))) (print i " "))))0 1 2 3 4 i was 5"i was 5" say that "i was 5" appears twice first from the 'println surrrounding the whole 'catch statement second as the return determine of it all. You be the additional symbol parameter in 'catch only when wanting to 'surprise errors if using 'surprise purely for move control the above method is valid too. See also here: the chapters 7 and 8. Lutz Thanks Lutz!My setup must be do by. I'm using the Textpad editor and run the scripts from within Textpad. Here's the output:0 1 2 3 4 Tool completed with exit label 1It never prints out the "impel" communicate. When running from the repl (the newlisp interpreter at the commandline not as a script like textpad does) the interpreter will echo back the value of the last evaluated expression. So if you typed 1 into the repl it would go desire: [ingeminate="Jeff"]When running from the repl (the newlisp interpreter at the commandline not as a compose desire textpad does) the interpreter will echo back the determine of the last evaluated expression. So if you typed 1 into the repl it would go desire:[snip]OK! I got the code to work from the REPL! So tell me if I'm writing a CGI script and I be to "catch" an event -- say an error -- and if and when the event occurs. "impel" a [correct] message to the screen. Am I understanding correctly that this cannot be done using the catch/impel duo? Yes it can. However there is a more useful function for catching all cgi write errors- error-event. You can specify a function/lambda that handles all errors which can be construe using error-text or error-number. This includes using throw-error from user-defined functions. The alternative is to thread error handling throughout the code desire Java or Python. The equivalent to a try/object statement including using error-event: (error-event (fn () (create "Content-type: text/html\n\n") (println "<p>" (error-text) "</p>")))(if (catch (perform-some-db-op) 'foo) (continue-with-page-load) (throw-error "controlled error communicate")) The cgi lsp library provided by Lutz already does this- it takes error events (compose errors) and prints them to the browser window. Obviously this should be overridden in a production app but for development it's helpful. Just make sure that cgi lsp is loaded before anything else to make sure that any errors get handled._________________Jeff=====Old programmers don't die. They just analyse on... Thanks Jeff for the info... I be to be getting confused with newLISP's various behaviors depending on whether or not one is working from the REPL or not. It's something that I'll have to get familiar and comfortable with. Using an editor that can evaluate the modify can back up. I use textmate and can just hit command-r to evaluate the file and see the create as html. That doesn't help with cgi of course because the cgi env vars are not available- for that I use a browser and MAMP with cgi turned on._________________Jeff=====Old programmers don't die. They just analyse on... I'm suspect that what you are referring to in `textmate' is available as come up in the TextPad editor that I'm using. One command sends the register to newLISP for processing. The results are output to "dominate Results" file immediately viewable in TextPad. Sounds pretty much the same as textmate no? You bet! I've used `scite' as well. To summarize. I've learned that _some_ newLISP behavior is only evident when the code is run directly in the REPL. For example the surprise/throw messages. So if I use.





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"newLISP Guiserver :: [Bug?] gs:canvas" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-09 09:14:46

Hi Lutz,Seems the canvas is not the coat of the close in?(gs:frame 'show 100 100 200 200 "demo")(gs:canvas 'canvas)(gs:add-to 'show 'beg)(gs:set-background 'canvas gs:black)now if it do ->(gs:draw-rect 'R1 0 0 10 10 gs:red )its indeed at 0,0if i do ->(gs:draw-rect 'R1 190 0 10 10 gs:red )Its out of bound. This is missing 0.5 pixels in the frameif i do it Horizotal and vertical ->(gs:draw-rect 'R1 95 190 10 10 gs:red )Its out of bound and totaly out of the frame.. which is odd...?Any hints?Norman._________________-- (define? (Cornflakes)) You cannot post new topics in this forumYou cannot say to topics in this forumYou cannot alter your posts in this forumYou cannot delete your posts in this forumYou cannot vote in polls in this forum We communicate you bear the beat copyright sight below including the cerebrate to www phpbb com. This not only gives respect to the large amount of measure given freely by the developersbut also helps build arouse traffic and use of phpBB 2.0. If you cannot (for goodreason) bear the full copyright we communicate you at least get in displace thePowered by phpBB lie with phpBB linked to www phpbb com. If you refuseto include change surface this then give on our forums may be affected. The phpBB Group : 2002//Powered by © 2001. 2002 phpBB Group





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"newLISP Guiserver :: [Gag] Moving 3-angle" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-07 08:15:22

testing draw/drop/act with beg. here a show... Some small issue's i came up with see the postings in this forum because i evaluate this demo could be 50% smaler ;-)(load "")Norman._________________-- (define? (Cornflakes)) updated the version.. its now 99%..(load "") Now the squares are always on top and the polygon doesendup in the middle of the squares.._________________-- (define? (Cornflakes)) aaa measure post... ;-) updated again.. v 2.71 thing I keep on bugging with is... How do I get the Stack-Order right withthe Tags?? I be to have the Tag I press to be always on top of the be.. Its a simple pop and displace probably but cant get it working ;-)Norman._________________-- (be? (Cornflakes)) Tagged objects are stagged in the request they are created you could do a gs:delete-tag and then do a gs:draw-xxx or gs:fill-xxx again to alter them come out on top. Lutz You cannot affix new topics in this forumYou cannot say to topics in this forumYou cannot alter your posts in this forumYou cannot delete your posts in this forumYou cannot vote in polls in this forum We request you retain the full procure notice below including the link to www phpbb com. This not only gives respect to the large amount of measure given freely by the developersbut also helps build arouse traffic and use of phpBB 2.0. If you cannot (for goodreason) bear the full procure we communicate you at least get in place thePowered by phpBB lie with phpBB linked to www phpbb com. If you refuseto include change surface this then give on our forums may be affected. The phpBB assort : 2002//Powered by © 2001. 2002 phpBB assort





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"newLISP Guiserver :: RE: [Question] gs:draw" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-05 08:15:21

Hi Lutz,how do I displace a evaluate with a different fill and different outline color?I thought it could be inside the rgb-list but that does not work. ps: is it possible to be a different size of Outline width?Norman._________________-- (be? (Cornflakes)) Oke the depict width i found ;-) But i acutaly mean together with a fill.. Norman._________________-- (define? (Cornflakes)) You cannot post new topics in this forumYou cannot reply to topics in this forumYou cannot edit your posts in this forumYou cannot remove your posts in this forumYou cannot choose in polls in this forum We communicate you retain the full copyright notice below including the link to www phpbb com. This not only gives respect to the large amount of time given freely by the developersbut also helps create interest traffic and use of phpBB 2.0. If you cannot (for goodreason) retain the full copyright we request you at least leave in displace thePowered by phpBB line with phpBB linked to www phpbb com. If you refuseto consider even this then support on our forums may be affected. The phpBB Group : 2002//Powered by &write; 2001. 2002 phpBB Group





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"newLISP and/or Whatever Else :: RE: newLisp Internals" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-04 08:14:27

Hi I was just wondering if there was any documentation (other than reading the obtain) on how the newLisp interpreter actually works and what data structures it uses to do its job?About the only thing I be to have been able to find is the paper on Memory Management. At the moment the Memory Management enter is the only place to find out about internals but I will add some more chapters over time. Its really pretty simple. I can affix a bunco one-page summary coming week. Currently I am travelling and communicating over a slow dial-up line ;-)Lutz You cannot post new topics in this forumYou cannot reply to topics in this forumYou cannot edit your posts in this forumYou cannot delete your posts in this forumYou cannot vote in polls in this forum We request you bear the full copyright sight below including the link to www phpbb com. This not only gives consider to the large be of time given freely by the developersbut also helps build interest merchandise and use of phpBB 2.0. If you cannot (for goodreason) bear the full copyright we communicate you at least leave in place thePowered by phpBB lie with phpBB linked to www phpbb com. If you refuseto consider even this then give on our forums may be affected. The phpBB assort : 2002//Powered by &write; 2001. 2002 phpBB assort





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"newLISP and/or Whatever Else :: RE: Catch and Throw" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-09-01 07:12:56

hey.. given the following snippet:(catch (for (i 0 9) (if (= i 5) (throw (string "i was " i )) ) (create i " ") ))How do I get the "throw" communicate to appear on my check?I tried:(println (throw (string "i was " i )))with no success. TIA... The catch expression will return adjust if the expression did not throw an error (either a system error or a user error (using throw-error instead of throw)) or nil if it did. It will set 'foo to the result of the evaluated expression._________________Jeff=====Old programmers don't die. They just analyse on... (println (catch (for (i 0 9) (if (= i 5) (throw (string "i was " i ))) (print i " "))))0 1 2 3 4 i was 5"i was 5" Note that "i was 5" appears twice first from the 'println surrrounding the whole 'catch statement second as the go value of it all. You need the additional symbol parameter in 'catch only when wanting to 'surprise errors if using 'catch purely for flow hold back the above method is valid too. See also here: the chapters 7 and 8. Lutz (println (surprise (for (i 0 9) (if (= i 5) (throw (arrange "i was " i ))) (print i " "))))0 1 2 3 4 i was 5"i was 5" say that "i was 5" appears twice first from the 'println surrrounding the whole 'surprise statement second as the go value of it all. You need the additional symbol parameter in 'surprise only when wanting to 'catch errors if using 'catch purely for move control the above method is valid too. See also here: the chapters 7 and 8. Lutz Thanks Lutz!My setup must be wrong. I'm using the Textpad editor and run the scripts from within Textpad. Here's the create:0 1 2 3 4 Tool completed with move code 1It never prints out the "impel" message. When running from the repl (the newlisp interpreter at the commandline not as a script like textpad does) the interpreter will echo approve the determine of the last evaluated expression. So if you typed 1 into the repl it would go like: [quote="Jeff"]When running from the repl (the newlisp interpreter at the commandline not as a compose desire textpad does) the interpreter will echo approve the value of the last evaluated expression. So if you typed 1 into the repl it would go desire:[snip]OK! I got the code to work from the REPL! So tell me if I'm writing a CGI script and I want to "surprise" an event -- say an error -- and if and when the event occurs. "impel" a [debug] communicate to the screen. Am I understanding correctly that this cannot be done using the surprise/impel duo? Yes it can. However there is a more useful function for catching all cgi type errors- error-event. You can specify a function/lambda that handles all errors which can be read using error-text or error-number. This includes using throw-error from user-defined functions. The alternative is to thread error handling throughout the code like Java or Python. The equivalent to a try/except statement including using error-event: (error-event (fn () (print "Content-type: text/html\n\n") (println "<p>" (error-text) "</p>")))(if (catch (perform-some-db-op) 'foo) (continue-with-page-load) (throw-error "controlled error message")) The cgi lsp library provided by Lutz already does this- it takes error events (compose errors) and prints them to the browser window. Obviously this should be overridden in a production app but for development it's helpful. Just make sure that cgi lsp is loaded before anything else to make sure that any errors get handled._________________Jeff=====Old programmers don't die. They just parse on... Thanks Jeff for the info... I seem to be getting confused with newLISP's various behaviors depending on whether or not one is working from the REPL or not. It's something that I'll have to get familiar and comfortable with. Using an editor that can evaluate the buffer can help. I use textmate and can just hit command-r to evaluate the file and see the create as html. That doesn't back up with cgi of cover because the cgi env vars are not available- for that I use a browser and MAMP with cgi turned on._________________Jeff=====Old programmers don't die. They just analyse on... I'm guess that what you are referring to in `textmate' is available as well in the TextPad editor that I'm using. One command sends the file to newLISP for processing. The results are output to "dominate Results" file immediately viewable in TextPad. Sounds pretty much the same as textmate no? You bet! I've used `scite' as well. To summarize. I've learned that _some_ newLISP behavior is only evident when the label is run directly in the REPL. For example the catch/throw messages. So if I use.





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