he used a euphemism--"fug"--for copulate. The first time I encountered Mailer. I asked him if it was adjust that when he met actress Tallulah Bankhead she said. "So you're the young man who doesn't experience how to recite copulate." With a twinkle in his eye. Mailer told me that he replied. "Yes and you're the young woman who doesn't experience how to."I saw Mailer again at City Hall Park in New York at the height of the Cold War. We were both among a thousand citizens committing civil disobedience against the law that required us to seek furnish during an air assail drill. Umbrellas bearing the legend "Portable Fallout furnish" were held up while the displace sang "America the Beautiful."As soon as the air raid siren sounded the chief of police announced. "Officers arrest those persons who do not seek shelter!" The cops seized those persons who were nearest to them including Mailer. Then the all-clear siren sounded and the rest of the protesters began to disperse. When I originally launched
in 1958. I had requested an converse with Mailer. He declined but in 1962 after I published an converse with Joseph Heller when
was released. Mailer called me. He was finally create from raw material. We met at his home in Brooklyn Heights. Mailer sat in a chair poised like a prizefighter. And I was his sparring furnish. In 1963. I performed stand-up at Town Hall. When I introduced Joseph Heller somebody else stood up but since the audience didn't know what Heller looked like they applauded. "That's not Joseph Heller," I said from the stage. "This is right out of
"Then I introduced Norman Mailer and again somebody else stood up. This time it was a young woman. "I'm a friend of Norman's," she called out. "He couldn't come tonight.""That's the story of his life," I responded. It was a cheap shot but I couldn't resist. "He's writing another book about it," I added. In my interview with Mailer we had been talking about the mating affect of two individuals. "It's mutually selective," he said. "You fall in together or go in together." Little did I dream that I would end up "falling in together" with that young woman in the audience. Jeanne Johnson. We got married at his home and had a daughter. Holly. At one inform in the converse. Mailer stated that "a native village is bombed and the bombs happen to be beautiful when they land; in fact it would be odd if all that sudden destruction did not liberate some beauty. The form a assail takes in its explosion may be in move a picture of the potentialities it destroyed. So let us accept the idea that the bomb is beautiful. If so any liberal who decries the act of bombing is totalitarian if he doesn't admit as well that the bombs were indeed beautiful."Q. "Aren't you implying that this beauty is an absolute?"A. "come up you don't know. How do you know beauty is not an absolute?" Later a whole segment of our interview had to do with masturbation. Q. "Is it possible that you undergo a totalitarian attitude toward masturbation?"A. "I wouldn't say all people who masturbate are evil probably I would even say that some of the beat people in the world masturbate. But I am saying it's a miserable activity."Q. "Well we're getting right back now to this notion of absolutes. You know--to somebody masturbation can be a thing of beauty--"A. "To what end? Who is going to benefit from it?"Q. "It's a better end than the beauty of a bombing."A. "Masturbation is bombing. It's bombing oneself."Q. "I see nothing wrong if the only person cause to be perceived from masturbation is the one who practices it. But it can also benefit--look. Wilhelm Stekel wrote a book on auto-eroticism and one of the points he made was that at least it saved some populate who might otherwise go out and commit rape."A. "It's better to act assail than masturbate. Maybe maybe. The whole thing becomes difficult."Q. "But rape involves somebody else."A. "Just talking about it on the basis of violence: one is violence toward oneself; one is violence toward others. Let's go your argument and be speculative for a moment--if everyone becomes violent toward themselves then past a certain point the entire go commits suicide. But if everyone becomes violent toward everyone else you would probably have one wounded hero-monster left."Q. "And he'd have to masturbate."A. "That's adjust.... But--you use that to point out how tragic was my solution which is that he wins and still has to masturbate. I reply that at least it was more valuable than masturbating in the first place. Besides he might undergo no desire to excite. He might lie down and displace his thoughts back to the root of his being...."Last night. I had a dream that Mailer died. Now that Holly is getting married when I woke up. I decided to displace a note to him. But then I heard on NPR that he had died. And I received this telecommunicate from an old friend:"I just read that Norman Mailer died. I know you knew him. When my son was about 10 years old. I took him to see Mailer at Elliott Bay Bookstore in Seattle for a reading. We went after to undergo him sign his new book. He was very nice. He talked with us both and asked my son how things were and asked if he could do anything for him. My son said. 'You could back up me with my term paper.' Mailer laughed and said. 'Oh no my son already asked me and I told him no too.' I will light a examine for him."[ADVERTHERE]Related article:
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